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Sandra Bernhard sounds off on everything from her new CD,
Everything Bad & Beautiful, to finding an unlikely fan
in Ann Coulter.
By Lawrence Ferber
Having shared explosive moments on TV’s The View back
in 2006 with the show’s resident conservative, Elizabeth
Hasselbeck, Sandra Bernhard has figuratively been in the
same boat as pal Rosie O’Donnell. But this July 7-14,
Bernhard and O’Donnell will literally be in the same
boat when the pair take to the seas (with their kids, no
less) on R Family Vacations’ summer adventure cruise,
during which the former will perform her new Plan B From
Outer Space show.
Fortunately, landlubbers and seafarers alike can enjoy Bernhard’s
edgy, unexpurgated mix of comedy, social/political/pop culture
commentary and song this summer, thanks to the June 5 release
of Everything Bad & Beautiful, a recording of her touring
production of the same name. The enhanced CD includes a brand
new dance track, “Perfection,” and live video
footage from a New York performance, while the iTunes version
will include two additional dialogue tracks and even more
video.
The Michigan-born, multi-talented Bernhard is also taking
Plan B through Florida in late July—specific tour dates
are listed on her official Web site (www.sandrabernhard.com)
and MySpace page (www.myspace.com/readyoutofilth). As if
all that weren’t enough, Bernhard
has her hands full raising Cicely, her 8-year-old daughter.
Happily, the working mother took time out from her breakneck
schedule to chat about her CD, Cicely, unlikely fan Ann Coulter
and what sort of mustache she would have drawn on Elizabeth
Hasselbeck’s picture.
So first let’s talk about the CD, Everything Bad & Beautiful.
It’s based on the show I’ve done and continue
to do. It’s a great recording of one of the performances
last summer in New York. It has all the highlights and fabulosity
of the show, a lot of music. But [the show is] two hours
long, so you can’t put it all on there.
And which bit on the CD is your favorite highlight from
the show?
That’s not how I feel about my shows. It’s all
one continuous, almost operatic piece. So there’s not
one particular thing on there I love more than the others.
But it’s a great representation.
And you’re currently touring a new show, Plan B From
Outer Space. What can you tell us about that one?
My new show is more of an improvised, in the moment show,
topical, that enables me to pick whatever is going on in
my life and the world. Trying to take Everything Bad & Beautiful
to every market was difficult because it has more musicians,
so this was easier to take on the road.
So what did you think of the whole The View fracas with
Rosie leaving, having enjoyed your own easily YouTubed experiences
on that show?
Oh listen, they’ve thrown it to the dogs there. If
you want to set up substandard dialogue with people who aren’t
informed or educated to have a proper exchange, they’ve
accomplished it. It’s not something I watch or get
roped into. It’s a shame there’s not a more real
intelligent exchange going on with the [political and social]
specters over us.
What style of mustache would you have drawn on a photo of
Elisabeth Hasselbeck—Salvador Dali, John Waters or
Hitler?
I wouldn’t have wasted my time. (laughs) Sorry!
Speaking of specters—Ann Coulter. How hot is she?
I know you’re kidding.
Were you shocked to hear Ann Coulter call John Edwards a
faggot?
No, honey. I was shocked when I met her in the green room
at Fox News. She came running up to me and introduced herself
and said, “Remember I came back to meet you after one
of your one-woman shows with Bob Guccione Jr., and I think
you’re fabulous.” That’s what shocked me.
Oh yeah. Ann Coulter loves my ass, which makes it all the
more insane that she wouldn’t carry on her politics
in a way so that she could actually be friends with groovy
people like me. She’s crazy.
Do you think she’s for real?
No. I think she just wants attention. She’s got some
emotional deficit.
Do you think Madonna is kicking herself for essentially
anointing Britney as the next Madonna some years ago? That
whole torch-handing went to pot, didn’t it?
No. She always makes statements [like] that ... she
can’t control [what someone else does]. Few of us can.
Are you shocked by Britney and her antics?
No. Britney had a crack whore mother who pushed her into
this disgusting business ... She has no resources, she’s
had no experience emotionally growing up in any kind of
resourceful, healthy way. What’s she supposed to
be? Of course she’s insane.
What about your daughter, Cicely? Is she harboring any showbiz
aims?
She talks about being a poet and playwright. You can’t
argue with that. It’s wonderful. She’s going
in an artistic direction. She certainly isn’t ready
to jump into the American Idol gene pool of total drek and
mediocrity.
Did you guys watch American Idol this past season and laugh?
No. The TV is never on during the week. With the rare exception
of on the weekends—she watches a little Animal Planet
or TV Land—we don’t watch TV, period. She likes
Meerkat Manor. Yes, she does. That’s fine. She has
her cello practicing. Her homework. Her pet hamster, Fidget.
She has plenty of things to occupy her time.
Would you be upset if you walked in one day and she was
lip-synching to Britney?
That would just never fucking happen. She’s a fabulous
child. She’s brilliant. And I raised her in the manner
of great thinking people.
Are her friends equally progressive?
Yeah. It’s up to you how you raise your child—not
up to them.
Have you ever walked in on Cicely and her friends and they
were having a conversation and your mind got blown by how
progressive or precocious it was?
Yeah, my mind is blown every day when she talks to me directly.
Like the hamster got away, and we didn’t find it until
later in the day. When she got home she said, “God,
I was so worried.” And I said “I wasn’t
worried.” And she said, “That’s just not
right. You know you were worried. We were all worried in
our own way.” I was like, “OK, you’re right,
but I wanted to be really positive.” And she said, “That’s
fine, but this is a situation that calls for some worrying!”
Does she ever see your shows?
No. She’s allowed to, but she doesn’t need to
hang out in the theater. She needs to be in bed.
So TV and American Idol are out. Do you have any bad habits
or vices these days, though?
I have a really bad habit of taking washcloths from hotels—[the]
white ones with the round corners. I use [them] back home
to wipe up around my sink. I’m obsessive. After I brush
my teeth or wash my face if there’s a drop of water
on the faucet or sink I take one of my washcloths and clean
them up. I love them when they’re 100 percent cotton.
I have good ones from the Palais Jamai Fes. They were mint
and had the P and J sewn in. Very chic.
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